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Post  AgathonZante on Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:11 am

I've heard Apollo described as a God of the Golden Bow, and by others a God of the Silver Bow in things like The Iliad. Which is it?
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Re: Apollo's Bow: Gold or Silver?

Post  Erodius on Sat Apr 12, 2014 12:20 am

AgathonZante wrote:I've heard Apollo described as a God of the Golden Bow, and by others a God of the Silver Bow in things like The Iliad. Which is it?

Both are Greek titles of Apollo — Ἀργυρότοξος 'silver-bowed' and Χρυσότοξος 'golden-bowed'.

Ἀργυρότοξος is more Homeric, whereas Χρυσότοξος is more Classical Attic.

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Re: Apollo's Bow: Gold or Silver?

Post  Daedalus on Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:53 am

I thought that Artemis was of the silver bow. I did not know that Apollo was also referred to as this.

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Re: Apollo's Bow: Gold or Silver?

Post  Erodius on Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:09 am

Daedalus wrote:I thought that Artemis was of the silver bow. I did not know that Apollo was also referred to as this.

Many of the epithets of Απόλλων and Άρτεμις are either shared outright, or derived from one another.

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-Iulianic Hymn to Apollon-Helios, ll. 65-106

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Re: Apollo's Bow: Gold or Silver?

Post  Thrasyvoulos on Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:00 pm

Erodius wrote:
Daedalus wrote:I thought that Artemis was of the silver bow. I did not know that Apollo was also referred to as this.

Many of the epithets of Απόλλων and Άρτεμις are either shared outright, or derived from one another.

Which makes perfect sense, given the extremely close relationship the two share with one another.

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Re: Apollo's Bow: Gold or Silver?

Post  Daedalus on Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:37 pm

Icarus wrote:
Erodius wrote:
Daedalus wrote:I thought that Artemis was of the silver bow. I did not know that Apollo was also referred to as this.

Many of the epithets of Απόλλων and Άρτεμις are either shared outright, or derived from one another.

Which makes perfect sense, given the extremely close relationship the two share with one another.
They are twins. Smile I am less confused now thank you.

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Re: Apollo's Bow: Gold or Silver?

Post  Linda on Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:27 pm

Daedalus wrote:
Icarus wrote:
Erodius wrote:
Daedalus wrote:I thought that Artemis was of the silver bow. I did not know that Apollo was also referred to as this.

Many of the epithets of Απόλλων and Άρτεμις are either shared outright, or derived from one another.

Which makes perfect sense, given the extremely close relationship the two share with one another.
They are twins. Smile I am less confused now thank you.

I imagine the gold and the silver in this case also reffers to the sun (golden) and the moon (silver).
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Re: Apollo's Bow: Gold or Silver?

Post  Daedalus on Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:53 pm

I have also drawn that conclusion. Apollo being referred to as of the silver bow threw me off.

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Re: Apollo's Bow: Gold or Silver?

Post  Erodius on Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:40 pm

Speaking practically, silver and gold were quite often alloyed in Antiquity, and there would have been less of a concrete distinction in the Classical mind between gold vs. silver than there is for us today with our more refined metallurgy.

Somewhat similar to how, in Ancient Greek and Latin, colors are not distinguished from each other as clearly as they are today. Red, indigo and purple were not really differentiated from each other, blue and grey were essentially seen as shades of the same color, brown was a type of red, and there was no such thing as orange.

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-Iulianic Hymn to Apollon-Helios, ll. 65-106

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