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Post  AgathonZante on Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:44 pm

Is it true that Dionysus was also considered a Sun God?

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Re: Dionysus and the Sun

Post  Erodius on Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:28 pm

AgathonZante wrote:Is it true that Dionysus was also considered a Sun God?

In esoteric cults, and by Hellenistic times, yes, most definitely.

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Re: Dionysus and the Sun

Post  AgathonZante on Tue Mar 07, 2017 3:07 pm

Why?

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Re: Dionysus and the Sun

Post  Thrasyvoulos on Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:56 pm

AgathonZante wrote:Why?

The "heart of Zagreus" is the cosmic intellect, as held in Orphism and explained by Proclus. As the cosmic intellect, it is the source of the logoi which order the mundane world. In this way, Dionysus emulates the sun, who is a demiurge in his own right and in turn emulates the demiurge of the hypercosmic Gods (that is to say, Zeus).

This is a common theme in much of Hellenic philosophy, Gods are identified with the sun because they share things in common with him.

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Post  Thrasyvoulos on Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:00 pm

Dionysus can also be indirectly identified with the Sun because of his role as a vegetative deity, with plants waxing and waning along with the path of the sun throughout the year.

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Post  AgathonZante on Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:03 pm

Very interesting. I thought He could also be considered a Sun God because the cycles of the sun bring forth the wine by making its cultivation possible.

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Post  Thrasyvoulos on Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:09 pm

AgathonZante wrote:Very interesting. I thought He could also be considered a Sun God because the cycles of the sun bring forth the wine by making its cultivation possible.

All manner of practical reasons can be made for the identification.

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