Greco-Roman "Mantras?"
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Greco-Roman "Mantras?"
Are there "mantras" in this tradition? I have been reciting Sanskrit mantras, but I am looking for something more traditional to Greco-Roman worship.
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Re: Greco-Roman "Mantras?"
In many Mystery religions, nearly all deities had special symbolic sounds, mystic names and phrases that would be sung in their worship.
However, some deities had special non-semantic vocalizations/names/phrases that would be widely used, even in more public worship.
Apollo and Bacchus both featured such 'mantras' commonly in their worship, there are also the "Ephesian Letters" of Diana, and, though lost, the songs of the Salian priests.
However, some deities had special non-semantic vocalizations/names/phrases that would be widely used, even in more public worship.
Apollo and Bacchus both featured such 'mantras' commonly in their worship, there are also the "Ephesian Letters" of Diana, and, though lost, the songs of the Salian priests.
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My question is where can I find these? Particularly the ones for Bacchus and Apollo.
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Re: Greco-Roman "Mantras?"
Oh, I apologize – slipped my mind to include the very thing I was discussing!
Bacchus’ popular vocalizations were εὐοί – εὐάν; Apollo would be praised with ἰὴ Παιάν.
Bacchus’ popular vocalizations were εὐοί – εὐάν; Apollo would be praised with ἰὴ Παιάν.
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Awesome! Thank you. How do you pronounce the Apollo one. I am not too familiar with Greek since I am a Roman.
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Παιάν or Παιών are traditional names for Apollo, meaning 'deliverer', 'savior' or 'healer' – pronounced pay-AHN or pay-OHN.
The Apollinian cry ἰή (written variously as ἰή, ἰέ, or ἰαί) is pronounced ee-YEEH or ee-EH, depending on form and vocalization.
The Bacchanal εὐοί-εὐάν or εὐοί-εὐαί are pronounced ew-IH–ew-AN or ev-EE–ev-AN or ew-IH ew-AY/ev-IH ev-AY.
The Apollinian cry ἰή (written variously as ἰή, ἰέ, or ἰαί) is pronounced ee-YEEH or ee-EH, depending on form and vocalization.
The Bacchanal εὐοί-εὐάν or εὐοί-εὐαί are pronounced ew-IH–ew-AN or ev-EE–ev-AN or ew-IH ew-AY/ev-IH ev-AY.
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Thank you. And another question. Where did you find these?
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Re: Greco-Roman "Mantras?"
Both appear fairly abundantly in classical literature - especially hymns, poetry and drama.
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I have another question. Are there any connections with Godnames in the grimoire tradition and the "mantras" in Greco-Roman religion?
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Godnames are like the mantras you had mentioned. They are primarily in Hebrew, Latin and Greek. Some names: salvator, heiritos, vitulus, Domine Deus, Sanctus Deus, lux, vox, pax, virtus, salus etc. A lot of these are found in grimoires which are books on magic and mysticism.
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There is little direct connection, then; some similarity in function.
The nomina sacra/ἱερά ὀνόματα and/or nomina mystica/μυστικά ὀνόματα are different from epithets/titles, as the 'godnames' you describe would be considered, in that they do not, typically, have any linguistic meaning.
The nomina sacra/ἱερά ὀνόματα and/or nomina mystica/μυστικά ὀνόματα are different from epithets/titles, as the 'godnames' you describe would be considered, in that they do not, typically, have any linguistic meaning.
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